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	<title>Comments on: Have Legend/Thus killed DSVR?</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Green</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4373</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Used to work at DSVR, Feb &#039;02 till Oct &#039;05. Quite likely you dealt with me in Sales, and I was active on the forums. 

All my blood, sweat and tears utterly destroyed by Legend. Some good people had their lives ruined, and in the end I took voluntary redundancy as I was fed up, and my blood pressure was scary for a then mid 20&#039;s salesman!

Rest assured, from someone who was there from the original Business Serve acquisition through to the Legend re-brand (but got about pre-Thus) we did everything in our power to maintain the standards!

Folks like myself, Chris Clarke, the indomitable Jon Topper and many others had to sit there and watch our work and the work of those before us be utterly abused.

I had a couple of opportunities to get involved in new hosting start-ups, but ultimately became disenfranchised and moved on.

I can honestly say that my time at DSVR was the best of my 10+ year career, and if I could steal a TARDIS for a day, I&#039;d certainly have a long think about going back and wrecking that acquisition!

If anyone wants to chat DSVR, rocketdave at gmail dot com. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Used to work at DSVR, Feb &#8217;02 till Oct &#8217;05. Quite likely you dealt with me in Sales, and I was active on the forums. </p>
<p>All my blood, sweat and tears utterly destroyed by Legend. Some good people had their lives ruined, and in the end I took voluntary redundancy as I was fed up, and my blood pressure was scary for a then mid 20&#8242;s salesman!</p>
<p>Rest assured, from someone who was there from the original Business Serve acquisition through to the Legend re-brand (but got about pre-Thus) we did everything in our power to maintain the standards!</p>
<p>Folks like myself, Chris Clarke, the indomitable Jon Topper and many others had to sit there and watch our work and the work of those before us be utterly abused.</p>
<p>I had a couple of opportunities to get involved in new hosting start-ups, but ultimately became disenfranchised and moved on.</p>
<p>I can honestly say that my time at DSVR was the best of my 10+ year career, and if I could steal a TARDIS for a day, I&#8217;d certainly have a long think about going back and wrecking that acquisition!</p>
<p>If anyone wants to chat DSVR, rocketdave at gmail dot com. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lee (DSVR customer)</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4354</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee (DSVR customer)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DSVR are providing a fantastic service again, the problem is their products have not moved with the times, an example being the amount of disk space you get with the servers, it&#039;s so stingy when compared to other hosts!

I suspect one stupid manager is to blame for all this, it&#039;s always the way with these medium sized businesses. One idiot in a key role brings down the whole company.

It&#039;s a shame that the director will only find out what&#039;s going wrong once his desk is being loaded onto a back of a lorry by the liquidators!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DSVR are providing a fantastic service again, the problem is their products have not moved with the times, an example being the amount of disk space you get with the servers, it&#8217;s so stingy when compared to other hosts!</p>
<p>I suspect one stupid manager is to blame for all this, it&#8217;s always the way with these medium sized businesses. One idiot in a key role brings down the whole company.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the director will only find out what&#8217;s going wrong once his desk is being loaded onto a back of a lorry by the liquidators!</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4306</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DoubleSpeed - It&#039;s certainly good to know that Demon/DSVR are providing a good service to some (and hopefully all) of their clients now; let&#039;s hope they&#039;ve turned the corner in that respect.

However, for us the grass &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; greener on the other side. I&#039;ve no experience of UK Fast (unless that&#039;s just a guise of Fasthosts, in which case I&#039;m not surprised...), but their site seems to be having problems right now ;)

Anyway, thanks for your comment. The original post about DSVR was meant purely as a moan, so I&#039;m happy to read any positive comments too.

I think we can all agree that finding decent quality UK hostng shouldn&#039;t be this traumatic, should it?! Or perhaps we - or at least our clients - just demand too much for too little?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DoubleSpeed &#8211; It&#8217;s certainly good to know that Demon/DSVR are providing a good service to some (and hopefully all) of their clients now; let&#8217;s hope they&#8217;ve turned the corner in that respect.</p>
<p>However, for us the grass <em>was</em> greener on the other side. I&#8217;ve no experience of UK Fast (unless that&#8217;s just a guise of Fasthosts, in which case I&#8217;m not surprised&#8230;), but their site seems to be having problems right now ;)</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for your comment. The original post about DSVR was meant purely as a moan, so I&#8217;m happy to read any positive comments too.</p>
<p>I think we can all agree that finding decent quality UK hostng shouldn&#8217;t be this traumatic, should it?! Or perhaps we &#8211; or at least our clients &#8211; just demand too much for too little?</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleSpeed</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4305</link>
		<dc:creator>DoubleSpeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unusually for this article Iâ€™m actually going to post a response that has positive comments about the Demon/DSVR platform. 

One of our main clients has an extremely successful database driven ecommerce web site and we hosted this on our dedicated dsvr server however the traffic to the site increased to such a level that the site needed to be moved to a dedicated box of its own. As we too had suffered lots of issues with the move to docklands and the power failure described above a decision was made that as the site was being moved anyway that we would try a new provider. We chose UK Fast as they make such a big play on the awards that they have won etc etc â€“ all I can say is what a bloody nightmare! 

Their server was down more than it was up cost our client a vast amount in lost sale and their reputation. Bearing in mind that the site had run happily on our dedicated box with dsvr  for some years and our server hosted more of our other clients sites as well email. The fact that the UK Fast server was only hosting 1 site and no email etc this was very very bad and to add insult to injury  UK Fast blamed guess what us, saying the there must be something wrong in the code/database etc. Anyway we moved the site temporarily back to our box and all worked fine as it had before the move to UK Fast whilst we provisioned another dedicated server with DSVR to which the site was finally moved more than a year ago and since everything has been great. 

So the moral of the story is whilst the grass may look greener on the other side  sometimes you are better off with the devil you know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unusually for this article Iâ€™m actually going to post a response that has positive comments about the Demon/DSVR platform. </p>
<p>One of our main clients has an extremely successful database driven ecommerce web site and we hosted this on our dedicated dsvr server however the traffic to the site increased to such a level that the site needed to be moved to a dedicated box of its own. As we too had suffered lots of issues with the move to docklands and the power failure described above a decision was made that as the site was being moved anyway that we would try a new provider. We chose UK Fast as they make such a big play on the awards that they have won etc etc â€“ all I can say is what a bloody nightmare! </p>
<p>Their server was down more than it was up cost our client a vast amount in lost sale and their reputation. Bearing in mind that the site had run happily on our dedicated box with dsvr  for some years and our server hosted more of our other clients sites as well email. The fact that the UK Fast server was only hosting 1 site and no email etc this was very very bad and to add insult to injury  UK Fast blamed guess what us, saying the there must be something wrong in the code/database etc. Anyway we moved the site temporarily back to our box and all worked fine as it had before the move to UK Fast whilst we provisioned another dedicated server with DSVR to which the site was finally moved more than a year ago and since everything has been great. </p>
<p>So the moral of the story is whilst the grass may look greener on the other side  sometimes you are better off with the devil you know!</p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4292</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I can&#039;t believe this post is still turning up in search engines! Thanks to everyone who&#039;s commented on what turned out to be my most popular post ever. Clearly a lot of bitter ex-DSRV customers out there...

I&#039;ve no idea what became of what was left of DSVR, but I hope the people behind it (when it was still a great company) have managed to find somewhere where their services and skills are appreciated.

18 months on, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clook.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clook&lt;/a&gt; are providing an excellent service.

@Austin Delaney - it must have been pretty galling for you to see how DSVR ended up, having co-founded them. I&#039;m sure I speak for a lot of ex-customers when I say thanks for your hard work.

@Jint - I&#039;ve not had any experience with Businessserve, so perhaps you could let us know why you think they&#039;re terrible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I can&#8217;t believe this post is still turning up in search engines! Thanks to everyone who&#8217;s commented on what turned out to be my most popular post ever. Clearly a lot of bitter ex-DSRV customers out there&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no idea what became of what was left of DSVR, but I hope the people behind it (when it was still a great company) have managed to find somewhere where their services and skills are appreciated.</p>
<p>18 months on, and <a href="http://www.clook.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Clook</a> are providing an excellent service.</p>
<p>@Austin Delaney &#8211; it must have been pretty galling for you to see how DSVR ended up, having co-founded them. I&#8217;m sure I speak for a lot of ex-customers when I say thanks for your hard work.</p>
<p>@Jint &#8211; I&#8217;ve not had any experience with Businessserve, so perhaps you could let us know why you think they&#8217;re terrible?</p>
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		<title>By: Jint</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator>Jint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Businessserve are absolutely terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Businessserve are absolutely terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO-PRO</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-4056</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO-PRO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This brings back memories... I remember DSVR being the dogs when it came to reliable webspace. I don&#039;t know what happened once they were taken over... Quality of service dropped which was a pain cos the servers went down more often after they were bought. Did they move from Manchester business park?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This brings back memories&#8230; I remember DSVR being the dogs when it came to reliable webspace. I don&#8217;t know what happened once they were taken over&#8230; Quality of service dropped which was a pain cos the servers went down more often after they were bought. Did they move from Manchester business park?</p>
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		<title>By: Rathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all thatâ€™s said, DSVR of old were a great investment and the money we made was great, but in the last 18months they have cost me some Â£34,000 in lost revenue as our main client dumped us!

We paid for the highest and best service DSVR had to offer but the support was useless and second rate, They accepted no responsibility for loss of service and always refer to these mythical creatures &quot;systems guys&quot; in London who are looking into it......remind me of the back to the future saying &quot;cosine pressure angle of the flux capacitor etc etc&quot; as if that helps!

Anyway enough ranting, let all put to and start a new DSVR, one in which we and our customers matter!

regards to all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all thatâ€™s said, DSVR of old were a great investment and the money we made was great, but in the last 18months they have cost me some Â£34,000 in lost revenue as our main client dumped us!</p>
<p>We paid for the highest and best service DSVR had to offer but the support was useless and second rate, They accepted no responsibility for loss of service and always refer to these mythical creatures &#8220;systems guys&#8221; in London who are looking into it&#8230;&#8230;remind me of the back to the future saying &#8220;cosine pressure angle of the flux capacitor etc etc&#8221; as if that helps!</p>
<p>Anyway enough ranting, let all put to and start a new DSVR, one in which we and our customers matter!</p>
<p>regards to all</p>
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		<title>By: Atom</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-3982</link>
		<dc:creator>Atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the Demon brand took over from the DSVR name the service has gotten even worse (I honestly didn&#039;t think that was possible). I think the appauling level of service could do Demon&#039;s brand an awful lot of damage.

It&#039;s such a shame, as DSVR really rocked when I first joined up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Demon brand took over from the DSVR name the service has gotten even worse (I honestly didn&#8217;t think that was possible). I think the appauling level of service could do Demon&#8217;s brand an awful lot of damage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a shame, as DSVR really rocked when I first joined up.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin Delaney</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofbadger.co.uk/2006/10/01/have_legend_thus_killed_dsvr/comment-page-1/#comment-3957</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin Delaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. I co-founded DSVR back in 1997. And we worked our nuts off to give the best hosting solution anywhere. We had competition with the likes of iServer but their system did not offer a true VS environment.

I haven&#039;t done too much research on the hosting front myself and have just plumped for a standard cpanel account with no shell login. Not for long though.

One of the main sales techies who helped greatly with DSVR is now working for fubra - their new service that&#039;s coming out soon is pretty hot.

http://www.fubra.com/blog

Austin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. I co-founded DSVR back in 1997. And we worked our nuts off to give the best hosting solution anywhere. We had competition with the likes of iServer but their system did not offer a true VS environment.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t done too much research on the hosting front myself and have just plumped for a standard cpanel account with no shell login. Not for long though.</p>
<p>One of the main sales techies who helped greatly with DSVR is now working for fubra &#8211; their new service that&#8217;s coming out soon is pretty hot.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fubra.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.fubra.com/blog</a></p>
<p>Austin.</p>
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